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How Signal, WhatsApp, Apple, and Google Handle Encrypted Chat Backups


Link Here11th May 2025
Full story: Internet Encryption...Encryption, essential for security but givernments don't see it that way

Encrypted chat apps like Signal and WhatsApp are one of the best ways to keep your digital conversations as private as possible. But if you're not careful with how those conversations are backed up, you can accidentally undermine your privacy.

When a conversation is properly encrypted end-to-end, it means that the contents of those messages are only viewable by the sender and the recipient. The organization that runs the messaging platform--such as Meta or Signal--does not have access to the contents of the messages. But it does have access to some metadata , like the who, where, and when of a message. Companies have different retention policies around whether they hold onto that information after the message is sent.

What happens after the messages are sent and received is entirely up to the sender and receiver. If youre having a conversation with someone, you may choose to screenshot that conversation and save that screenshot to your computers desktop or phones camera roll. You might choose to back up your chat history, either to your personal computer or maybe even to cloud storage (services like Google Drive or iCloud, or to servers run by the application developer).

Those backups do not necessarily have the same type of encryption protections as the chats themselves, and may make those conversations--which were sent with strong, privacy-protecting end-to-end encryption--available to read by whoever runs the cloud storage platform youre backing up to, which also means they could hand them at the request of law enforcement.

With that in mind, lets take a look at how several of the most popular chat apps handle backups, and what options you may have to strengthen the security of those backups.

How Signal Handles Backups

The official Signal app doesnt offer any way to back up your messages to a cloud server (some alternate versions of the app may provide this, but we recommend you avoid those, as there dont exist any alternatives with the same level of security as the official app). Even if you use a device backup, like Apples iCloud backup, the contents of Signal messages are not included in those .

Instead, Signal supports a manual backup and restore option. Basically, messages are not backed up to any cloud storage, and Signal cannot access them, so the only way to transfer messages from one device to another is manually through a process that Signal details here . If you lose your phone or it breaks, you will likely not be able to transfer your messages.

How WhatsApp Handles Backups

WhatsApp can optionally back up the contents of chats to either a Google Account on Android, or iCloud on iPhone, and you have a choice to back up with or without end-to-end encryption. Here are directions for enabling end-to-end encryption in those backups. When you do so, youll need to create a password or save a 64-digit key.

How Apples iMessages Handles Backups

Communication between people with Apple devices using Apples iMessage (blue bubbles in the Messages app), are end-to-end encrypted, but the backups of those conversations are not end-to-end encrypted by default. This is a loophole we've routinely demanded Apple close.

The good news is that with the release of the Advanced Data Protection feature , you can optionally turn on end-to-end encryption for almost everything stored in iCloud, including those backups (unless youre in the U.K., where Apple is currently arguing with the government over demands to access data in the cloud, and has pulled the feature for U.K. users).

How Google Messages Handles Backups

Similar to Apple iMessages, Google Messages conversations are end-to-end encrypted only with other Google Messages users (youll know its enabled when theres a small lock icon next to the send button in a chat).

You can optionally back up Google Messages to a Google Account, and as long as you have a passcode or lock screen password, the backup of the text of those conversations is end-to-end encrypted. A feature to turn on end-to-end encrypted backups directly in the Google Messages app, similar to how WhatsApp handles it, was spotted in beta last year but hasnt been officially announced or released.

Everyone in the Group Chat Needs to Get Encrypted

Note that even if you take the extra step to turn on end-to-end encryption, everyone else you converse with would have to do the same to protect their own backups. If you have particularly sensitive conversations on apps like WhatsApp or Apple Messages, where those encrypted backups are an option but not the default, you may want to ask those participants to either not back up their chats at all, or turn on end-to-end encrypted backups. Ask Yourself: Do I Need Backups Of These Conversations?

Of course, theres a reason people want to back up their conversations. Maybe you want to keep a record of the first time you messaged your partner, or want to be able to look back on chats with friends and family. There should not be a privacy trade-off for those who want to save those conversations, but unfortunately you do need to weigh whether or not its worth saving your chats with the potential of them being exposed in your security plan .

But also its worth considering that we dont typically need every conversation we have stored forever. Many chat apps, including WhatsApp and Signal , offer some form of disappearing messages, which is a way to delete messages after a certain amount of time. This gets a little tricky with backups in WhatsApp. If you create a backup before a message disappears, itll be included in the backup, but deleted when you restore later. Those messages will remain there until you back up again, which may be the next day, or may not be many days, if you dont connect to Wi-Fi.

You can change these disappearing messaging settings on a per-conversation basis. That means you can choose to set the meme-friendly group chat with your friends to delete after a week, but retain the messages with your kids forever. Google Messages and Apple Messages dont offer any such feature--but they should, because its a simple way to protect our conversations that gives more control over to the people using the app.

End-to-end encrypted chat apps are a wonderful tool for communicating safely and privately, but backups are always going to be a contentious part of how they work. Signals approach of not offering cloud storage for backups at all is useful for those who need that level of privacy, but is not going to work for everyones needs. Better defaults and end-to-end encrypted backups as the only option when cloud storage is offered would be a step forward, and a much easier solution than going through and asking every one of your contacts how or if they back up their chats.

 

 

Offsite Article: How to keep your private online conversations private...


Link Here 11th February 2025
Consider using Signal and Tor. By Clare Duffy

See article from edition.cnn.com

 

 

Showing privacy the red card...

Labour government inevitably continues with creation of online ID system


Link Here3rd November 2024
Full story: Online ID in the UK...UK scheme to verify online id
The UK government has launched the Office for Digital Identities and Attribute (OfDIA), a group within the Department for Science, Innovation, and Technology, tasked with encouraging the growth of the digital ID market under the leadership of chief executive Hannah Rutter.

In fact the Labour government is continuing with a Tory idea that was first announced by the previous government in 2022.

Rutter claimed that digital identity can make people's lives easier, and unlock billions of pounds of economic growth.

Rutter made sure to address one of the criticisms regarding the security of such schemes -- centralization -- by saying that the system her office is working on does not have a centralized digital database.

Currently, OfDIA is working to create a trusted and secure digital identity market and this work focuses on five areas, starting with developing and maintaining the digital identity and framework, and then being in charge of a register of accredited organizations that meet the framework's requirements.

 

 

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French court gives porn websites 15 days to implement censorship via age verification


Link Here20th October 2024
Full story: Age Verification in France...Macron gives websites 6 months to introduce age verification
A French Court of Appeals in Paris has ruled that certain porn websites are subject to a national age verification requirement adopted under a 2020 French law.

The ruling applies to websites that don't operate in European Union member states.

Websites Tukif, xHamster, MrSexe, and IciPorno, all non-EU platforms, must adopt more rigorous age verification measures within 15 days or else they will be blocked by French ISPs.

Porn websites are currently under duress via the EU and the websites are presently challenging Digital Services Act rules.

The Court of Appeal ruled that:

Children's general interest was an overriding consideration which may justify infringement of other rights such as freedom of expression or communication.

Giving priority to the protection of the private lives of adult consumers, by ruling out age verification, is incompatible with the protection of minors.

AVN also reported on a national age verification requirement granting Arcom, the audiovisual and internet censor for France, the right to enforce age-verification rules.


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