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Robot Dreams...

Further details of BBFC category cuts for PG rated cinema release


Link Here24th May 2024

Robot Dreams is a 2023 Spain/France animation drama by Pablo Berger
Starring Ivan Labanda, Tito Trifol and Rafa Calvo Melon Farmers link  BBFC link 2020  IMDb

BBFC category cuts were required for a BBFC PG rated cinema release in 2024.

Summary Notes

Based on the popular graphic novel by the North American writer Sara Varon, ROBOT DREAMS tells the adventures and misfortunes of Dog and Robot in NYC during the '80s.

Versions

BBFC cut
category cuts by substitution
cut:
run: 102:29s
pal: 98:23s
PG

IFCO cinema G

UK: BBFC PG rated for mild rude humour for mild rude humour after BBFC category cuts:
  • 2024 Artificial Eye Film Co. cinema release (rated 30/01/2024)

The BBFC commented:

The company obscured rude gestures in order to achieve their preferred category of PG. An uncut 12A classification was available.

Thanks to Scott and Jake

The rude gesture was in fact the robot showing his middle finger when copying members of a street gang. The director was involved in deciding how to obscure the gesture by covering it up. The solution was more than acceptable as the covered up scene gets a laugh from viewers realising that the robot is making the gesture and that this has been censored.

Ireland: It is likely that it was the cut UK version that was IFCO G rated for consumer advice: explores themes of friendship and loss with positive resolution:
  • 2024 Curzon cinema release (rated 16/01/2024)

 

 

Soldier Blue...

With a long history of censor cuts, the film has been further cut by the BBFC for a 2024 video release


Link Here16th May 2024
Soldier Blue is a 1970 USA western by Ralph Nelson.
Starring Candice Bergen, Peter Strauss and Donald Pleasence. Melon Farmers link  BBFC link 2020  IMDb

Reportedly cut in the US for an MPAA rating in 1970. These cuts have long since been forgotten and the R rated version is the best available. The film was cut for an MPAA PG rating in 1974 but the R rating was restored in 1976.

The R rated version was cut by the BBFC for X rated cinema release and 18 rated VHS. The BBFC cuts for sexual violence were waived in 2004 for 18 rated DVD releases but new cuts were required for horse falls. In 2024 further BBFC cuts were required for previously unnoticed indecent images of a child.

Summary Notes

After a cavalry group is massacred by the Cheyenne, only two survivors remain: Honus, a naive private devoted to his duty, and Cresta, a young woman who had lived with the Cheyenne two years and whose sympathies lie more with them than with the US government. Together, they must try to reach the cavalry's main base camp. As they travel onward, Honus is torn between his growing affection for Cresta, and his disgust for her anti-American beliefs. They reach the cavalry campsite on the eve of an attack on a Cheyenne village, where Honus will learn which side has really been telling him the truth.

Versions

best available
best
available
run: 115m
pal: 110m
MPAA RUS: Uncut and MPAA R rated for:

There are reports that the original US R Rated version was cut to avoid an X rating in 1970. The film was cut for a PG rating in 1974 but the R rating was restored in 1976. Any such cuts have long since being forgotten though, and the current uncut US version is definitive.

mpaa cut
cut
MPAA PGUS: Cut for an MPAA PG rating in 1974
BBFC cut
cut
cut:
run: 115:19s
pal: 110:42s
18UK: BBFC 18 rated for strong violence, sexual violence for strong violence, sexual violence after BBFC cuts:
  • 2024 Studio Canal Blu-ray (rated 13/05/2024)

The BBFC commented:

Compulsory Cuts were required for illegal horse falls and potentially indecent images of a child.

BBFC cut
cut
cut: 6s
run: 114:38s
pal: 110:03s
18Passed 18 after 6s of BBFC cuts with previous cuts for violence restored for:
  • UK 2008 Optimum R2 DVD

The BBFC commented: Four cuts were required to remove the presence of cruel, dangerous and illegal horse falls

cut
total cuts
cut: 28s
run: 114:12s
pal: 109:38s

BBFC cut
7s

cut
distributor
23s

18Passed 18 after 7s of BBFC cuts and 23s of distributor cuts for:
  • UK 2005 Momentum R2 DVD

Bizarrely the Momentum Pictures resubmission in 2005 ended up by being unnecessarily more cut than the previous version. The BBFC made the following statement: The BBFC requested 7 seconds of cuts to remove cruel horsefalls but the distributor made additional voluntary cuts of 23 seconds to remove an acceptable horsefall and part of a rape scene. These cuts were not required by the BBFC but were in line with cuts made to previous video releases.

BBFC cut
23s
cut: 23s
run: 114:02s
pal: 109:28s
18Passed 18 after 23s of BBFC cuts for:
  • UK 1999 BMG VHS

The BBFC cuts were:

  • The cuts as per previous Embassy version except that slightly less cut from the rape scene
BBFC cutcut
cut: 36s
run: 113:25s
pal: 108:53s
18Passed after 36s of BBFC cuts for:
  • UK 1986 Embassy VHS

The cuts were:

  • Cuts are to a scene showing the rape of an Indian woman, during the massacre of the village
  • Cuts to a shot of a naked Indian woman strung up by her wrists with blood on her breasts
  • A horsefall has been removed
BBFC cut
cut
cut:
run:
pal:
sub: 114:39s
X certPassed X (18) after BBFC cuts for:
  • UK 1970 cinema release

The BBFC cuts were:

  • Cuts to a scene showing the rape of an Indian woman, during the massacre of the village
  • Decapitation of indian squaw removed

 

 

Stranger Things...

The BBFC decides that other streamers may re-use BBFC ratings determined by the likes of Netflix


Link Here23rd April 2024
The BBFC commented in a recent board meeting minutes:

BBFC Classifiers discussed a policy proposal to allow BBFC age ratings issued by self-rating partners such as Netflix to be made available for wider online use by other VoD services licensed to carry BBFC ratings. This proposal will promote greater ratings consistency across the VoD landscape, to help families make safe and informed viewing decisions.

The Classifiers approved the new policy to be implemented on a 12 month trial basis, after which the BBFC will review its impact and effectiveness.

 

 

A spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down...

The BBFC comments on the press response to its ludicrous decision to uprate Mary Poppins


Link Here21st April 2024
The BBFC commented about a recent decision to uprate Mary Poppins from U to PG.

Historically rated U, the film was recently submitted for classification ahead of a 60th anniversary cinema re-release. When distributors choose to resubmit older films, the BBFC considers them under its current Classification Guidelines so that the modern rating is in line with public expectations. This means that older titles may sometimes require a higher or lower age rating than in previous years.

Viewed under the current guidelines, MARY POPPINS required a PG rating for two uses of the discriminatory term hottentot. In the film, Admiral Boom (who believes he is a naval commander in charge of a ship travelling the world) asks Michael, a child, if he is going on an adventure to defeat hottentots. Later, the character shouts We're being attacked by hottentots! after seeing a gang of chimney sweeps (who have faces blackened with soot) dancing on a rooftop. He then proceeds to launch fireworks in their direction.

At U, the guidelines state that Discriminatory language or behaviour is unlikely to be acceptable unless clearly disapproved of. There is no disapproval of the language used in MARY POPPINS, and so a PG rating was required.

The decision received considerable attention from the press, both in the UK and around the world, with factual reporting as well as opinion pieces both supporting and criticising the decision. David was interviewed about the reclassification live on the BBC.

The Classifiers suggested that it might be wise in future to publish a statement on our website about any reclassification decisions that generate similar levels of media interest, to ensure that accurate information is readily available for anyone who needs it.


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